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Music Prediction

"vaily simular"? What the heck does that mean? Don't want to take it out in case I'm just dumb but that makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.32.241 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

No, it doesn't make sense to me either; the author should explain or delete. In fact, the entire "Music" section needs redoing -- it sounds like someone just putting forward their personal view without any references or sources. I'd change it, but I have no information to replace it at the moment, and don't want to leave it blank — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertLovesPi (talk • contribs) 01:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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No mention of YouTube?

YouTube is only a footnote in this article, which I'd be willing to disagree with as it has proven a massive part of popular culture in the 2010s. Bold and Brash (talk) 10:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

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Broken gallery

@Bold and Brash: The table of images of North American political events was broken. I tried to reformat it, but there seems no reason to include it at all. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Felt the images conveyed the most notable political events concerning that region, if the gallery was broken its probably best to leave it out. Bold and Brash (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
It was broken in the sense that it forced its way past the right margin, even on my desktop. On my mobile (in desktop mode), it doubled the width of the article. If it could be redone allowing line breaks ... it probably would have gone vertical. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:56, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

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So how can we able to condense the size of this article to suitability?

Anyone have any ideas? How much is too much? —AppleWormBoy (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

By splitting oversized sections into logically separate articles, as per WP:SPINOUT. 77.126.74.132 (talk) 18:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Say no more :) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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A prototype of the 2010s decade collage

Since there was already a previous discussion on what to include in the collage of this decade, I figured I'd share mine. (From left, clockwise: Rise of ISIS from the Syrian Civil War/Arab Spring, Obama and Biden waiting on updates on the death of Osama Bin Laden, Bitcoin gaining popularity, smartphones and tablets also gained prominence, the 2010 Haiti earthquake, Brexit, DPRK-USA summit, Wedding of Kate and Prince William, and the Chile Mine accident.) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 14:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Just a prototype.
I personally don't find Bitcoin representative of the decade, it's more of a hype that quickly fizzled out. I will probably pick something like the Harlem Shake to represent the rise of internet culture, meme culture and the ubiquity of video-sharing sites instead. But it's probably more considered to wait for this kind of stuff until we really reach around the end. A major event can still happen in the next 12 months.
--213.49.227.46 (talk) 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, very true. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
The appearance of smartphones and tablets were definitely a massive, global, cultural shift. Smartphones should 100% be in the collage. However, Bitcoin was a minor trend, and should not be in the collage. Likewise, the British Royal family was relatively insignificant wrt pop culture outside of the UK, and should not be added either... -Harhar88
I would suggest an image of one of the early protests of the Arab Spring, which changed the Arab world in many ways and one of Occupy Wall Street, representative of the rise of anti-economic inequality sentiment/populism. RiverCastle (talk) 13:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Okay, so no go on the Royal Family, but one on the Occupy Wall Street protest and Arab Spring. Interesting. What else? —AppleWormBoy (talk) 19:03, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok I suppose I will share my thoughts. I too say that the royal wedding is not needed. If they had ascended to the throne maybe, but they haven't. I am more fine with bit coin but I do agree there are better events. The Arab Spring is pretty important, but in some way I guess the ISIS picture. Could represent both. I would be fine with 2 separate pictures though, one or ISIS and one for the Spring. I would say something about the progress of LGBT rights is important, as many countries have legalized homosexuals and other have legalized gay marriage. Personally I think it's important enough to be included. I like the discussion and I think we should keep it going, but I still say no montage should be posted to the original page tell the end of the decade. Only 1 year away though, so we're not far. Khscarymovie4 (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Ah, okay. -AppleWormBoy (talk) 03:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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My two cents -> Yes: ISIS, Brexit, the rise of smartphones, diffusion of same sex marriage, Arab Spring. Maybe: Occupy Movement, Bitcoin, Haiti earthquake, meme culture. No: Royal family (low impact events), mining accident (too small and local), death of Osama bin Laden (highly mediatised low impact event), Trump- Kim Jong Un summit (highly mediatised as well, in this regard I would only feature a possible reunification of Korea when/if that happens). I think we have already enough political developments, I would fill the rest with additional social (what about #MeToo?) or technological developments (not an expert on this). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dadoso90 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Well, let's see what I have so far: Brexit, Arab Spring, ISIS, smartphones, same-sex marriage being more tolerant amongst people, Haiti earthquake, finding water on Mars (science-related) and the Occupy movement. All righty, then. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 03:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Isn't there a less generic looking picture for smartphones/tablets? The almost-entirely white image clashes with the rest and is very attention grabbing.
--213.49.64.160 (talk) 01:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll see if I can find a picture of a smartphone and tablet (probably together) and insert it into the new collage. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Something that absolutely MUST be on there is the new global competition for machine learning and AI systems. A good image could be IBM's Watson defeating the world Jeopardy champion, or Google's AlphaGo defeating the world champion at Go. As of the mid-2010s AIs have been in every aspect of daily life in the developed world, appearing in everything from search engines, to speech recognition, stock trading, real estate transactions, movie suggestions, control systems, etc. This all occurred thanks to renewed interest/research in Artificial Neural Networks in the early 2010s, and the massive increases in computing power that occurred over the decade. You could add a chart showing the exponential increases in computing power that occured over the 2010s. All major corporations (Google, etc), and many governments (USA and China) have stated many times over the decade that they are heavily invested in achieving AI supremacy. -Harhar88
A few additional suggestions ... 1) An image for shrinking population of developed countries such as Japan (the population of japan started shrinking in the early 2010s and has only accelerated). Every country in the world has seen fertility rates plummet over the 2010s, except for the population explosion occurring exclusively in Africa. 2) The rise of the digital oligopoly, specifically referring to the "big five" (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon), which dominate the majority of the technology industry. 3) An image for the rising global prominence of China, and their slowing economy. 4) Electric car industry appears and gains huge momentum -Harhar88
Here is another possible prototype that I uploaded to imgur .. https://imgur.com/a/IozzSNr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harhar88 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)


I'll see what I can do with those suggestions, but I feel as if the oligarchy/Big Tech part is a bit of a stretch. The collage should be more of a generalization of almost every field of human interest within the 2010s. I don't think we should delve further like that.

—AppleWormBoy (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I think we should include one of these ones
  • Virtual Reality

    Virtual Reality

  • Rise of eletric cars

    Rise of eletric cars

  • Atlas from boston dynamics.jpg

    boston dynamics - AI e Robots

  • Army Drone

    Army Drone

  • Drone

    Drone

  • Mosul - war aganis ISIS

    Mosul - war aganis ISIS

  • Kendrick Lamar

    Kendrick Lamar

  • Kim Jong Un and Moon Jae-In

    Kim Jong Un and Moon Jae-In

  • Smartwatch

    Smartwatch

  • Raqqa - Syrian Civil War

    Raqqa - Syrian Civil War

  • Arab Spring

    Arab Spring

  • NSA LEAKS

    NSA LEAKS

  • Edward Snowden

    Edward Snowden

  • Fukushima

    Fukushima

  • Pluto

    Pluto

  • Netflix

    Netflix


Mateus Zica (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

^Definitely. :) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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Adding Croatian EU accession to the "Prominent_political_events#Europe" subsection

I'm not experienced with editing Wikipedia articles, but surely if the Brexit referendum (United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016) has a slot, then the actual accession of Croatia to the EU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_enlargement_of_the_European_Union) is also worth mentioning.

109.202.107.147 (talk) 12:14, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

New collage mockup

I've put together a revised version of User:AppleWormBoy's proposal for a decade collage based on the preceding discussion. I replaced the war room image (an arguably America-centric image/event to highlight) with a photo of the Tahrir Square protests (as suggested above). Between Tahrir Square and the ISIS flag, I think the situation in the Middle East is reasonably well pictorially represented; while the Syrian War is important, I'm wary of these collages becoming uniform patchworks of rubble and indistinct crowds just because that's what a lot of important events look like. In the middle, then, I substituted a representative image of the European migrant crisis.

A new draft

One big consideration, in my opinion, is visually distinct images which cover multiple features of the decade. So, for example, even though the Trump-Kim summit isn't the decade's most important event, it's an iconic image and it means we don't have to find a way of including a second image with Donald Trump in it; he's covered. Likewise, the image of the Tesla roadster in space is also an iconic picture, and it covers both private space travel and electric vehicles. I think that with the European migrant crisis covered, including a separate image for Brexit (which is hard to represent visually anyway) isn't ideal, so I substituted an image representing the Russian annexation of Crimea, a major geopolitical event.

Since people objected to the provinciality of the Chilean mine collapse, I substituted the lead image for our article on Xi Jinping, arguably the most powerful man in the world and one of the most important leaders of the decade.

If anyone has any better ideas for how to represent smartphones I'd be interested - my ideal would be something like this image, but with Twitter or something on the screen (to represent social media in a visually appealing way). The black outlines aren't the greatest.

I also wasn't sure what to put in the upper right (although I agree with the consensus that Bitcoin was the wrong choice), so I stuck a pride flag there - although frankly, I think a more iconic image, like File:Celebrating a new America -lovewins 58242 (18588276403).jpg, would be preferable if we're going to represent LGBT rights.

This is meant as a conversation starter; a hopefully-more-appealing proposal for how to go forward. ∴ ZX95 [discuss] 23:14, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Very insightful analysis. I actually agree with most of the pictures on your draft, except for Xi Jinping. Usually, decade montages here on Wikipedia don't have single major figures represented and more to do with all emblematic events. And plus, why shouldn't Brexit be on there? It's a significant catapult to most of Britain being distrustful over the European Union and would (probably) change the course of the UK's political history if the no-deal exit ever becomes engaged. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Nice collage, but I agree, Brexit should be somewhere on the collage as its own separate panel. It was a major disruption to decades of EU agreements (involving a significant number of countries), and may have ramifications wrt the EU's future.

Seconded - the 'we voted leave' image used elsewhere seemed an ideal representation of not only Brexit but the broader populist movement in the west, which is an absolute **must** for the collage. Drones also seemed a potentially good shout. Also, not too sure about the Tesla in space either, doesn't seem a necessarily momentous event. - Half past formerly SUFCboy 16:20, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

It's certainly an improvement, but I personally don't like how crowded the upper middle image is. It's certainly hard to make up what it supposed to be (Arab Spring?). I also agree that the Xi Jinping picture is pretty cumbersome in how it is supposed to be representative of a whole decade. A Brexit-related picture would probably be preferable. The smartphone/tablet picture is also not ideal. --193.191.131.98 (talk) 11:46, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Saw comments regarding Brexit and Xi Jingping and made a draft accordingly, CaptainLeslieHero (talk) 16:49, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
File:2010s collage mockup draft2.jpg
Another draft
Looks good! Now is there a nicer alternative for the smartphone picture?
--213.49.196.232 (talk) 11:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Reason for removing the "too long" tag

I believe that I sufficed the problem of unnecessary text length for this article. I've reduced and/or deleted some sections or portions that I perceive to be useless. So, if there's anything else you would like me to reduce or whatever, then reply. :) -AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Image for new collage mockup

Hey guys, I think we should use Black hole - Messier 87 crop max res.jpg, the first image of a black hole in the new collage mock-up as it signifies agruably the greatest scientific achievement of this decade. Thanks.

we should use this--Leavepuckgackle1998 (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

For the first mockup, below, I praise who mad it for their insight and initiative, but I, personally, generally dislike it, because I feel it is badly layered, with poor choices for images, most of which are very much america-centric and only deal with the latter half of this decade. Also, it boycotts popular culture, which has rapidly transformed in this decade, as well as the needless hyperbole of a man in car "driving" to mars. I will make my own and submit it for opinion.

new mockup

what you guys reckon? I've put all these cultural landmarks that defined this decade, from the rise of far-right extremism and populism (see Jacinda Arden on the day of the mosque shootings and the brexiteer) to the further civil rights movement in this era with the iconic still from "Get Out", and the rainbow flag symbolising further LBGTQ+ culture. I overlkayed with a copy of the mueller report, which i don't think you can notice. This is just a first draft, so give me some tips and I'll let you all know.

File:2010s..png
Draft mockup

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leavepuckgackle1998 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Girl Scouts of America

Arthur Rubin We appear to have a disagreement on whether the title should have "[sic]" any suggestions on who would be an appropriate third party?Naraht (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

@Naraht: I don't think we (Wikipedia) use [sic] in titles. WP:SIC suggests it should be used only in quotations. I have no objection to using the WP:3O process, but I think WT:MOS, or some other guideline talk page, should be informed. I'm on my smartphone at the moment, which makes it difficult to initiate any complicated process. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Arthur Rubin I'm going to ask on WT:MOS, if there is an overriding feeling one way or another, then I'll go with that, OK?Naraht (talk) 19:00, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Naraht Fine. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Collage mockup

Hi everybody, I think we should start a discussion regarding which events should be included in "decade's image" for the infobox. These are my suggestions:

  • Tahrir Square - February 9, 2011.png
  • Mosul in ruins after war.jpg
  • Boatleave - 10 (27661060226).jpg
  • 20151030 Syrians and Iraq refugees arrive at Skala Sykamias Lesvos Greece 2.jpg
  • OnePlus 7 Pro.jpg
  • Pudong Shanghai November 2017 HDR panorama.jpg
  • Black hole - Messier 87 crop max res.jpg

What do you think? -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I love those images. Good summary of the 2010s. I wouldn't use the word "Populism" though, too much of a controversial buzzword. Definitely include Brexit though. Maybe you could include the extreme population drop of Japan, and the ongoing war/anarchy in eastern Ukraine. -Alex

I tried adding a 2010s montage to the page a couple of times a few days ago but I didn't realize this discussion page existed and that people were already discussing about adding one. I'm new to editing Wikipedia so I'm still trying to figure things out. My montage, which you can find by looking at "2010s Montage" on Wikimedia Commons, has images relating to the Arab Spring, Operation Neptune Spear, LGBT acceptance, ISIL, Higgs Boson, Brexit, the Presidency of Donald Trump and smartphones. The corresponding caption also read as: "From left, clockwise: Egyptians celebrate Hosni Mubarak’s resignation during the Arab Spring in 2011; U.S. President Barack Obama and his national security team oversee Operation Neptune Spear, which saw the assassination of Osama Bin Laden in 2011; LGBT acceptance increases in many parts of the world; ISIL militants parade through Raqqa; the Higgs boson is detected by the Large Hadron Collider and later confirmed to exist in 2013; pro-Europeanists protest the withdrawal of the UK from the EU; Donald Trump is elected U.S. President in 2016 during a period of intensifying political polarization in the U.S.; digital and mobile technologies like the smartphone rise to mainstream adoption." I didn't think about adding a picture relating to China's economic growth, which is a good one to include to the montage. I also think that the Higgs boson discovery has more significance than the black hole picture in my opinion. - Ayenyne

Hi Ayenyne, when you create a collage of images, you must be sure about the correct licenses of the photos. For example, the image of ISIL terrorists that you've used has an incorrect license and will be soon removed from Wikimedia Commons, which will cause the following deletion of your collage. -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:49, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
HI Nick.mon, maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that all images from the Wikimedia Commons are copyright-free. - Ayenyne 11:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, but anyone can upload an image on Wikimedia Commons, and even if it isn't copyright free, the photo could remain on Commons for days, or maybe weeks. -- Nick.mon (talk) 18:25, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

I think we could include something from the new wave of gender equality? Is that an issue abroad? Also Occupy and Black Lives Matter? 24.113.97.94 (talk) 19:30, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, @Nick.mon: The choice is really difficult. I think though, that European migrant crisis had such a big impact on Europe, EU, Africa - even worldwide - that it's wrong to omit it from the collage. Should we put it instead of the Higgs boson? Lone Internaut (talk) 10:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

2010s montage

I've updated the image collage and caption.

BrexitPresidency of Donald TrumpSmartphoneArab Spring2010s in LGBT rights2010 Haiti earthquakeIslamic State of Iraq and the LevantHiggs Boson
From left, clockwise: A protest outside the Palace of Westminster is held against Brexit, the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union following 2016 referendum where majority voted to leave the political and economic bloc; Donald Trump is elected as U.S. President in 2016 during a period of intensifying political polarization in the U.S.; A smartphone is used to take a picture, digital and mobile technologies rise to mainstream adoption across world; White House lights up in colors of LGBT flag in 2015 to celebrate U.S supreme court ruling which guaranteed right of same-sex couples to marry nationwide, decade marked significant increase of LGBT rights in many parts of world; the Higgs boson is detected by the Large Hadron Collider and later confirmed to exist in 2013; Black Standard of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is waved, a militant Salafi jihadist group which captured large areas of Iraq and Syria between years of 2013 and 2015 but proceeded to lose most of territory following military efforts of local Arab and Kurdish forces with support from national governments; Child is treated for injuries following 2010 Haitian earthquake which killed over an estimated 100,000 people; Egyptians celebrate Hosni Mubarak’s resignation during the Arab Spring in 2011, a series of protests against authoritarianism and corruption which began in Tunisia and spread to other parts of the Middle East and North Africa.
  • The combined EU/British flag is more illustrative of Brexit
  • The White House lit up in rainbow colours better captures the increase in LGBT acceptance.
  • The previous image representing ISIS needed to be changed as its source was deleted from Wikimedia Commons.
  • I've replaced the Bin Laden raid image with one for the Haiti earthquake. The earthquake had an enormous death toll so it should be there. The Bin Laden killing might've been a big story but I don't believe it qualifies as one of the biggest of the decade, nor does it represent wider geopolitical or societal changes.

MaesterTonberry (talk)

I am not sure about changing Bin Laden's death with 2010 Haiti Earthquake, but - as I wrote before - speaking about death toll and impact on politics and economy the European migrant crisis should be in the montage. Lone Internaut (talk) 18:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Sirkh1 (talk)

I also think the Situation Room photo is pivotal and iconic and should remain in the montage. I understand how smartphones have affected everything in the 2010s, but I'm not sure we need a photo of one in the montage when another is right down the page. Sirkh1, (talk) 18:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Smartphones should definitely remain in. The montage is like an article lead, it's supposed to duplicate content found in the article because it's a summary of it. Most of the montages for other decades (including the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s) also include important technologies. As for the Situation Room image, while I'm not 100% against it, including it would mean either replacing or reducing the image of a more important event in my opinion. MaesterTonberry (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough on smartphones, but Brexit and Trump are two sides of the same coin, and considering the net negative effect that many of the things in the pictures that represent the 2010s seem to have had or are having (I'm amazed there's no picture of the aftermath of a mass shooting somewhere in America), I'd honestly (and maybe this is me editorializing or being overly emotional) like at least one more picture where the outcome was something actually good, and that to me is one reason The Situation Room deserves to be included. Sirkh1 (talk) 22:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I quite oppose the inclusion of Donald Trump. We have never, ever, included an election of an American President in the collage. By comparison, the election of the first African-American President should be more important than Trump's one, but we didn't include it in the 2000s collage (and I think we were right). In my view we should remove him, or at least, including only one event between him and Brexit, which are two sides of the same coin. Moreover, we should insert the European migrant crisis. As a European I could be a bit biased, but this event had completely changed our continent's politics (and I suggest this image File:20151030 Syrians and Iraq refugees arrive at Skala Sykamias Lesvos Greece 2.jpg). -- Nick.mon (talk) 20:24, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
You make an interesting point about Trump. While I believe his election was easily one of the biggest events of the decade the same could've been said about Obama for the 00s yet he wasn't included in that collage. Maybe he should've been, I don't know. I considered including the migrant crisis, as well its root cause the Syrian civil war, but felt the collage would be too focused on events relating to troubles in the Middle East and their after effects. The cause of all of those things is arguably the Arab Spring which already takes up the most space in the montage. ISIS is also already included. I'm open to everyone else's thoughts though. MaesterTonberry (talk) 16:01, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
On second thoughts I've included an image for the Syrian Civil War. It's too large of an event to leave out. MaesterTonberry (talk) 14:57, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Yet the Syrian Civil War is already linked to other major events in the collage too, the Arab Spring and ISIS. Plus, if you want to represent it properly, don't use an image of Mosul, which is not in Syria, but Iraq. I second the recommendation of putting an image of the European migration crisis. RiverCastle (talk) 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm OK with removing Trump from the collage as long as there's an image to adequately represent the neo-nationalism wave that began around 2015-2016. There's already around 3-4 images of Trump throughout the article so having him in the collage may be overkill anyway. Either keep him there, remove him and leave the brexit pic to represent Brexit and Trump together, or find a better pic to represent what Trump represents (with good licensing of course). Separately, I think the 2010 Haitian earthquake pic should be replaced with something more global, like the rise of China, Something environmental (plastic pollution awareness or the amazon fires), cryptocurrencies, or drone technology/AI advancements RopeTricks (talk) 23:35, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps something more orientated towards culture could be included. The childhood of early Gen Zs seemed to entirely revolve around Minecraft, which became the best selling game of all-time. The Marvel super-hero franchise was a global phenomenon, with Avengers: Endgame becoming the biggest movie ever. Obviously finding free-to-use images to represent either is tricky though. MaesterTonberry (talk) 15:16, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
I see you put ruins of Raqqa in the collage. Though I appreciate it and agree with its significance, I disagree it should be in the collage. we already have an ISIS photo to represent everything ISIS related, making the Battle of Raqqa (which was about ISIS) derivative. Like I said earlier, the final pic should be of something cultural, environmental or tech related on a global scale, we have enough politics related things there. The Syrian Civil War is derivative of the Arab Spring (and overlaps with the ISIS representation also). RopeTricks (talk) 22:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Ideally, the montage should be switched back to the original one shown here, seems to better represent the 2010s visually, something clearly to do with the Islamic state needs to be shown in the montage given its enormous significance. e.g. that flag or perhaps a photograph of one of their truck convoys. Ideally, the later if a useable photo for this can be found. The widespread populism also needs to be shown not juts Brexit but the grater global phenomena. 01:45, 12th October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9A0C:5A83:2DE5:22B4:C34D:439B (talk)

Collage image and topic suggestions

Give your opinion on what topics should be included in the collage and what should be left out. On some subjects there seems to be wide agreement, like Brexit and the Arab Spring, others are more contested, like including Trump. Ideally mention the image you believe should represent a certain topic.

Here are many of the images either suggested or included in previous versions of the collage so far but feel free to suggest new ones

  • Arab Spring

    Arab Spring

  • Arab Spring

    Arab Spring

  • Arab Spring

    Arab Spring

  • Syrian Civil War

    Syrian Civil War

  • ISIL

    ISIL

  • Migrant crisis

    Migrant crisis

  • Migrant crisis

    Migrant crisis

  • Killing of Bin Laden

    Killing of Bin Laden

  • Smartphones

    Smartphones

  • Smartphones

    Smartphones

  • Smartphones (and tablets)

    Smartphones (and tablets)

  • Smartphones

    Smartphones

  • Brexit

    Brexit

  • Brexit (plus wider increase populism)

    Brexit (plus wider increase populism)

  • Brexit (plus wider increase populism)

    Brexit (plus wider increase populism)

  • Brexit

    Brexit

  • Trump election (and/or populism)

    Trump election (and/or populism)

  • Trump election (and/or populism)

    Trump election (and/or populism)

  • Higgs Boson and Large Hadron Collider

    Higgs Boson and Large Hadron Collider

  • Black hole photo

    Black hole photo

  • LGBT Rights

    LGBT Rights

  • LGBT Rights

    LGBT Rights

  • LGBT Rights

    LGBT Rights

  • Haiti earthquake

    Haiti earthquake

  • Haiti earthquake

    Haiti earthquake

  • North Korea

    North Korea

  • North Korea

    North Korea

  • President Trump entering North Korea

    President Trump entering North Korea

  • Rise of China

    Rise of China

  • Rise of China

    Rise of China

  • Russian annexation of Crimea

    Russian annexation of Crimea

Additional ideas relating to culture and technology, to shift the collage away from being too focused on politics especially those relating to problems in the Middle East.

  • Internet memes, to represent explosion of 'meme culture' in the decade

    Internet memes, to represent explosion of 'meme culture' in the decade

  • Internet memes

    Internet memes

  • Internet memes

    Internet memes

  • Gangnam Style, KPop, memes

    Gangnam Style, KPop, memes

  • Pepe the Frog.jpg

    Populism, alt-right, memes

  • Minecraft becoming best selling game of all-time

    Minecraft becoming best selling game of all-time

  • Minecraft

    Minecraft

  • Marvel Comic Universe becoming biggest film franchise of all-time and Endgame becoming biggest film

    Marvel Comic Universe becoming biggest film franchise of all-time and Endgame becoming biggest film

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    MCU, Avengers Endgame

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    Drones

Ideally we could represent advancements in A.I with Google's AlphaGo beating the world Go champion but I can't find a good free image of it. Anyway, I'd like to hear everyone's opinions. MaesterTonberry (talk) 04:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I think we only need one image related to trump,brexit, ext. It would be useful to include the Russian annexation of Crimea as growing tensions between Russia and the west seems to have been a prominent theme throughout the decade. I like the idea of a more culture related image but not so keen on the memes as they don't really seem to suit this kind of collage. Maybe the k-pop image or the minecraft one? Also, definitely one isil/migrant crisis, rise of china related one and smart phone. Llewee (talk) 16:30, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm surprised no one mentioned the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami. The Western African Ebola virus epidemic was pretty important too. Ythlev (talk) 07:20, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I suppose it might be good to have one image related to a natural disaster or a pandemic. But we don't need to many images linked to those topics as they don't really represent a larger trend in politics or culture in the way a photo of a smartphone or a protest relating to Brexit for example does.Llewee (talk) 08:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

If you're talking about long-lasting impact, I don't think Brexit has it, not until it happens anyways. Ythlev (talk) 17:03, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I don't mean that, it's impossible for us to know the true long term impact of anything which has happened in the last (less than) ten years in the future, yet. My point is that a image relating to Brexit would represent a wider trend we've seen certainly in the western world with the election of Donald Trump, the vote for brexit (who knows whether it will actually happen), the rise of far right parties across Europe and also else where with politicians like Bolsonaro for example. Llewee (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@MaesterTonberry: May I suggest replacing the Raqqa image with one of the aforementioned disaster? The Syrian civil war is already kind of represented with ISIL, whereas the Tohoku earthquake is the costliest disaster in history and resulted in the second-worst nuclear event. I also think the Arab Spring should be represented by Tunisia since it is the only country involved to democratise. Ythlev (talk) 06:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah the 2011 Tohoku earthquake should probably be included. I found this image which I like because it represents it well as a Japanese natural disaster. You're right the Syrian Civil War and ISIL don't both need to be included but of the two I believe the civil war was more important so I'd rather that image remain and the ISIL one go. As for the Arab Spring, I'd say the ousting of Mubarak received the most global attention of any event during that period so I think the Cairo image represents it fine, even if the end result in Eygpt didn't live up to the hopes of many. MaesterTonberry (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
@MaesterTonberry: ISIL is perhaps more important than the Syrian civil war. There has been many conflicts in the Middle East and Syria is not the most deadly or most destructive. ISIL on the other hand, there has never been anything like it, and it has also been involved in that war. Ythlev (talk) 09:44, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Created a new collage. Thoughts?

SmartphoneAnnexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation2010 Haiti earthquake2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunamiArab SpringSyrian Civil WarHiggs BosonMinecraftBrexitObergefell v. Hodges
From left, clockwise: Digital and mobile technologies such as the smartphone rise to mainstream adoption; Crimea is annexed by Russia in 2014; an earthquake in Haiti kills over 100,000 in 2010; an earthquake and tsunami in Japan kills over 15,000 and causes a nuclear accident at the Fukushima Power Plant in 2011; the Higgs boson is detected by the Large Hadron Collider and later confirmed to exist in 2013; LGBT acceptance increases in many parts of the world, with same-sex marriage made legal nationwide in the US in 2015; Populism increases in much of the world, with the UK voting to leave the EU in 2016; Minecraft is released in 2011 and becomes one of the best selling games of all time; Syria falls into civil war in 2011; large anti-government protests spread across the Arab World from 2010.
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  • Marvel Cinematic Universe

    Marvel Cinematic Universe

MaesterTonberry (talk) 04:27, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

notable world leaders

Should Danish PM Mette Frederiksen be included in the section Notable world leaders? Previous Danish PMs Helle Thorning-Schmidt and Lars Lokke Rasmussen are included, should Frederiksen also be there? 78.108.56.35 (talk) 10:11, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Updated collage

I've updated the collage taking on suggestions above. I would've liked to include the Haitian and Japanese earthquakes but 7 or 8 items is the standard for these montages and the emphasis is always more on geopolitical and cultural changes.

Arab SpringAnnexation of Crimea by the Russian FederationBrexitSyrian Civil WarSmartphoneObergefell v. HodgesHiggs BosonMinecraft
From left, clockwise: Anti-government protests spread across the Arab World in the Arab Spring; Crimea is annexed by Russia in 2014; Syria falls into civil war in 2011; the Higgs boson is detected by the Large Hadron Collider and later confirmed to exist in 2013; Minecraft is released in 2011 and becomes one of the best selling games of all time; same-sex marriage becomes legal nationwide in the US after the Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges in 2015; digital and mobile technologies such as the smartphone rise to mainstream adoption; populism increases in much of the world, with the UK voting to leave the EU in 2016.

MaesterTonberry (talk) 14:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)


@MaesterTonberry: ISIL is perhaps more important than the Syrian civil war. There has been many conflicts in the Middle East and Syria is not the most deadly or most destructive. ISIL on the other hand, there has never been anything like it, and it has also been involved in that war. Ythlev (talk) 09:44, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe but in terms of death toll and geopolitics I'd say the Syrian Civil War was more important. It has been the most destructive war of the decade and is at least as important to the 2010s as the Gulf War was to the 1990s and Iran-Iraq War to the 1980s and both those conflicts were featured in their respective montages. MaesterTonberry (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't think Minecraft should be here. There has been many popular video games in history. Also most people don't play video games. Ythlev (talk) 09:53, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I've never played Minecraft but it seems the childhood of everyone who grew up in this decade revolved around the game. It was more of a cultural phenomenon than simply a popular game and we need something culture related in the collage. I considered instead an image representing the MCU films but because there's going to be many more of those in the next decade too I decided against it. MaesterTonberry (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Regarding videogames, I think the rise of popularity of esports is something much more relevant (and also covers plenty of different games. Unrelated but, I think something about the Paris accords, or a rise in concern regarding global warming could be included. Dustz (talk) 15:03, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
If Minecraft has to be there (which I don’t really think it should), at least change the image. That image doesn’t represent the game at all. It’s just some person in a costume. Chris6d (talk) 21:50, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Not many to choose from because free-to-use images representing copyrighted material are hard to come by. If you know of a good one either for Minecraft or something else feel free to link it. Because Minecraft is contentious I've edited the collage to leave it out for the time being. As much as I'd like some aspect of 2010s culture represented maybe it's fine without any. MaesterTonberry (talk) 00:26, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
I would like to share my say that the 2011 Japanese disaster both geological and nuclear should be represented, as that bird's-eye view of the nami invincibly rolling over the landscape is still imprinted in my memory watching it on TV in the Philippines, along with it being the costliest natural disaster in history and moving Japan's core island 8 feet east. Years later, the effects of the nuclear meltdown are still being dealt with in Fukushima Prefecture; internationally, it has caused Germany to announce a shutdown of all nuclear plants by 2022, while Italy would no longer construct new nuclear plants of their own. LionFosset (talk) 08:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Bringing the collage up to snuff

The current collage (File:2010s_decade_events_montage15.png) looks quite good, except that the middle row is kind of a hash. Since there have been a lot of suitable images proposed here, that shouldn't be too hard to rectify. The unfortunate fact about File:Destroyed neighborhood in Raqqa.png is that it's kind of an indistinct smear in the current collage, failing to represent the Syrian Civil War visually for the reader in any way. I'm partial to the ISIS flag image (File:İD bayrağı ile bir militan.jpg), which is clear even when cropped and resized, and is a clean visual representation of a major geopolitical development in the region. If anyone has any similarly appealing alternatives for representing this general geopolitical topic feel free to suggest them, but the Raqqa image is way too indistinct as cropped and resized for this collage.

The current Brexit image (File:Brexit Demonstrator Banners.jpg) is certainly legible, but it seems kind of unfortunate to use essentially an image of some text on a sign. I'm fine with File:Brexit Demonstration Flags.jpg or, frankly, zooming out and using a visually striking image for the migrant crisis (which is deeply intertwined with populism in Europe more broadly), like File:LE Eithne Operation Triton.jpg. But the sign photo really doesn't seem like a good use of space where it is. ∴ ZX95 [discuss] 22:10, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Good points. You're right looking at the Raqqa image it's generic enough it could stand in for any war. I don't believe the ISIS image alone should replace it though because the Syrian Civil War deserves representation in its own right, ISIS was just one of many parties involved. That said ISIS was a huge part of the decade too, not just because of their role in Syria/Iraq but their major terrorist attacks in the West, and because its inclusion has been brought up before I'll add both. I've found this image which represents the Syrian Civil War somewhat better. The concern before was the collage was too focused on the Middle East but I think the balance is fine now.
I believe the Brexit image should be of pro-Brexit supporters, to represent both Brexit and the increase in populism in the wider Western world (talk page didn't want an extra panel with Trump). I've replaced the current image with this one as it looks a bit nicer and the phrase 'we want our country back' is used by populists everywhere.
Here's the new version:
Arab SpringAnnexation of Crimea by the Russian FederationBrexitSyrian Civil WarIslamic State of Iraq and the LevantSmartphoneObergefell v. HodgesHiggs Boson
From left, clockwise: Anti-government protests spread across the Arab World in the Arab Spring; Crimea is annexed by Russia in 2014; Syria falls into civil war in 2011; ISIL performs terrorist attacks across world and captures, but later loses, parts of Syrian and Iraqi territory; the Higgs boson is detected by the Large Hadron Collider and later confirmed to exist in 2013; same-sex marriage becomes legal in the US and several other countries; digital and mobile technologies such as the smartphone rise to mainstream adoption; populism increases in much of the world, with the UK voting to leave the EU in 2016.
MaesterTonberry (talk) 00:18, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Update: I'm tweaking the recently updated collage, based on rough talk page consensus that visually striking, non-generic images are to be preferred, and in particular that File:2014-03-09 - Perevalne military base - 0162.JPG is a preferable representation of the annexation of Crimea (as opposed to something less clear, like a photo of Putin signing a piece of paper). ∴ ZX95 [discuss] 08:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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Leaders

I believe that they should be included these leaders:

Ethiopia's prime minister Abiy Ahmed

New Finland's prime minister Sanna Marin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.140.88.4 (talk) 20:40, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Syrian Civil War

Why does the Syrian Civil War not have a separate header under "Civil Wars"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filursiax (talk • contribs) 02:16, 12 December 2019 (UTC) Filursiax (talk) 02:27, 12 December 2019 (UTC

It was coupled with the Libyan Civil War under the Arab Spring, which was significant enough to have its own section. RopeTricks (talk) 13:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Collage needs upgrading

The images of "Arab Spring", "Bashar Al-Assad", and "ISIS" is too much Middle East for the collage. It would have you believe the 2010s revolved entirely around the Middle East, which it did not. I recommend having 2 images instead of 3. Perhaps replace the third image with a picture of a coal stack with the caption "global concern about climate change", since every country has been intensely debating climate change policy in the 2010s. I nominate the removal of the "Bashar Al-Assad" pane, since it is part of Arab Spring as ISIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.196.159 (talk) 17:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

  • I believe we should instead replace the image of the Syrian Civil War, which is part of the Arab Spring and the rise of ISIS, with an image relating to either the South Sudanese Civil War or the Western African Ebola virus epidemic, since Africa is unrepresented. Koopinator (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
    • I don't think the Ebola outbreak should be there. In terms of death toll it's dwarfed by the Haiti earthquake. And in terms of wider geopolitical or cultural impact its effect wasn't huge. MaesterTonberry (talk) 05:27, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
  • I've included an image representing concern for climate change as I agree it was a huge issue this decade. Suggestions are welcome if people prefer a different picture. MaesterTonberry (talk) 22:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
  • The Paris Agreements image looks great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.196.159 (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Arab Spring pane stays as many of the events in north africa and the ME that occurred in the decade are largely or partially repercussions or offshoots of the Arab Spring (Libya chaos, Yemen chaos, the social climate helped in the rise of ISIS, Iraqi politics, Tunisian politics, Egyptian politics, Syrian Civil War and Western, Turkish and Russian adventurism in that country, the subsequent Arab Winter, etc. The Arab Spring and all of its long-term and and short term effects are lastingly significant and led to consequential events in one of the most geopolitically important regions of the planet, as opposed to protests in SEA and SA RopeTricks (talk) 07:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I feel like we don't need the smartphone there. We already have it in the 2000's since the iPhone came out in 2007. LoreMaster22 (talk) 5:53, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

The smartphone picture can be replaced with a tablet (iPad was released in 2010) instead. RopeTricks (talk) 06:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
The smartphone pic is to represent smartphones becoming globally mainstream, not their invention. MaesterTonberry (talk) 22:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
becoming mainstream is irrelevant. we talk about the web in the 1990s but it's not a main theme of the 2000s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.230.119.231 (talk) 03:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
A smartphone/tablet image is absolutely necessary, since it represents a huge worldwide societal change. Daily life and interaction has been altered massively for most of the world's population due to smartphones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.196.159 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Header too Big

Hey, Koopinator just reverted my edits which reduced the size of the header and put a line in about populism. The reason I did this was that there was a notification at the top saying the page looked cluttered and should be put into sub-categories, and the other decades have an overview sub-category, so I thought it would be fitting. I also put in a line in the overview about populism and political polarisation, given that that is, at least as important, as talking about the rise in identity politics and LGBT rights, as this decade was more of a division rather than universal acceptance of liberalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arctofire (talk • contribs) 11:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arctofire: The very idea of having a lead to begin with is to provide an overview of the topic at hand (MOS:LEAD), so having a separate "overview" section makes no sense. The vast majority of articles don't do this, and i don't see why this one should. If other articles on decades have a separate overview section, then those overview sections should be merged as well. I do feel that this article should be trimmed by taking out less important content, and while i'm not sure how to achieve that, this is definitely not the way to go about it. Koopinator (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Global warming missing in the introduction

While several relevant topics, such as the financial crisis, appear in the introduction, no reference is made to the climate debate, which has dominated much of the political discussion in many parts of the world. This debate includes discoveries in climatology, weather extremes (e.g. wildfires in California, Siberia, now Australia; heat waves in large parts of Africa and Europe), new global record temperatures, debates about green deals, the Paris agreement, the Fridays for Future movement in Europe etc. This lack is surprising, as this debate has dominated much of the political debate around the globe (maybe less so in the U.S., although increasingly also there recently). My shy attempt to include a short paragraph was, unfortunately, removed again. I suggest to include a paragraph again. Flugscham (talk) 13:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

@Flugscham: I believe "Combating pollution and climate change continued to be major global environmental concerns as protests, initiatives, and legislation garnered substantial media attention." is enough for the introduction. The Intro is already a bit too large. Try expanding in 2010s#Environmentalism instead. Koopinator (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, but actually I believe that this one sentence does not live up to the expectations our readers have when it comes to this dominating topic. See the length of, for example, the part about the financial crisis or the role of the U.S. Not that these topics are not important, but the climate debate dominates all newspapers across Europe. Flugscham (talk) 13:22, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
@Flugscham: You're right, but an entire paragraph is too much expansion for an already large lead. If you want to, we could replace "Combating pollution and climate change continued to be major global environmental concerns as protests, initiatives, and legislation garnered substantial media attention." with 2-3 short sentences of your choice. Any more is overkill. Koopinator (talk) 14:05, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for getting this opportunity. What about the following four short sentences? I have integrate the existing sentence, as you suggested: "In the 2010s, global warming became increasingly noticeable through new record temperatures in different years and extreme weather events on all continents. The CO2 concentration rose from 390 to 410 PPM over the decade. At the same time, combating pollution and climate change continued to be major concerns, as concerns as protests, initiatives, and legislation garnered substantial media attention. Particularly, the Paris Agreement (2015) was adopted and a global climate youth movement was formed." Flugscham (talk) 17:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Very long

I originally added the tag, in objection to things appearing in the decade summary not considered important enough for the individual year articles. Even more has been added in sports, since then. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:55, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arthur Rubin: I'll try and downsize the prose and maybe even condense some sections in the article as well. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arthur Rubin: Okay, honestly I'm all for downsizing the prose, but users like Koopinator might object to it, so I'm really in a pickle here. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arthur Rubin:@AppleWormBoy: one possible option is to break this article up by general topical area. I'm not saying we need to do so, but on the other hand there's no reason we can't simply have 2010s in sports, 2010s in entertainment, 2010s in political history, 2010s in business, etc etc. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
@Sm8900: That could be a great idea. We can summarize the articles in each section that way. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
@Sm8900: I like it, but I don't know if we can keep it in place without an advertised RFC. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:28, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
here, hold my beer. Face-smile.svg --Sm8900 (talk) 23:27, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
@Arthur Rubin:@AppleWormBoy:, okay, done.  Done In a manner of speaking. enjoy. --Sm8900 (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
We do have some "2010s in X" articles already, so it should be easiest to move detail from here to those existing articles, or simply remove detail from here if they are already included there. Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:43, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

@Arthur Rubin:@AppleWormBoy:, would you like to use these drafts? --Sm8900 (talk) 13:03, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: The entertainment one is vague to me. By entertainment, do you mean movies? TV? Music? These topics can be articles themselves. Anyways, I think we can be able to downsize some sections by using simple bullet points, similar to the ones from the 1990s and 2000s articles. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 15:56, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
@AppleWormBoy:, Sorry, but I totally disagree with that route. A lot of people worked very hard to write the extensive information in this article. We can split it up, rather than condensing other people's long-standing work. --Sm8900 (talk) 00:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Sm8900: I guess that's fair. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 01:16, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@AppleWormBoy:, thanks, I appreciate your helpful reply. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:07, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
if the 2010s has severeal "2010s in X" articles, why the 1910s and 1920s shouldn't have? let's create and expand these decades as well! 213.230.94.221 (talk) 09:30, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Whoever created the spoilers for the 2010s lists, THANK YOU so much for your contribution. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Image formatting

I don't know how to format images and align text, but when I look at the article in a less than full computer window, some of the images are partially off the page into the grey section on the right. They also have uneven spacing between them. Can someone help with that?—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 00:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Can we split article? Please feel free to comment!!

I would like to split this article. for starters, the whole culture section could be moved to an article entitled 2010s in culture, or else 2010s in entertainment or 2010s in popular culture. is that okay? also what article name do editors here prefer? thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I support the 2010s in culture article. However some of the content should remain here.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 00:35, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, per length. Onetwothreeip (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

EDM vs Hip Hop

In the intro, EDM music is mentioned as a major trend, but hip hop is not mentioned. From my experiences, it seems that hip hop had more of an impact than EDM, at least in the US, I don't know about other countries. The article says that hip hop became the most common music form in 2017 so I think it should be mentioned in the intro.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 00:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: Copy that. — AppleWormBoy (talk) 00:52, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

#MeToo movement

I feel like this was an important event in the decade that warrants a mention in the article if not a place in the collage--86.27.198.160 (talk) 21:21, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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Greta Thunberg resumes the enviromentalist trend of the decade

Firs of all, I would like to apologize beforehand in case my intervention is not put in the most appropriate form or place, I'm not new to Wikipedia but I lack editing skills.

I read and I share one of your concerns about the washed-out image of the middle right and let me suggest you to substitute it for a Greta Thunberg one since she is powerfully suggestive of the Climate Change concerns of this past decade and an inspirational wind of change for many.

By the way, I believe an important omission has been committed: the so called fourth-wave feminism. No matter what our opinions are, this is part of the idiosincrasic nature of the 2010s.

I hope my idea can serve you of some sort of help. See you and thank you for your constant work!

Alvite (talk) 18:49, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Improving the lead collage

I've modified the lead collage slightly in the interests of avoiding Anglocentric parochialism - the trend of European populism and the migrant crisis are much broader than just Brexit, and there are more striking images of this phenomenon than a British person in the middle distance holding an English-language sign. As a result, I've updated the collage in the lead to a new version:

The updated collage

I don't think this collage is perfect, but it's better than the old, Anglocentric version. There are probably more visually striking options for climate change than the somewhat washed-out image on the middle right, but I'll leave it for now until a better alternative is proposed. ∴ ZX95 [discuss] 06:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Looks good. { } 06:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Representing populism with an image of the European migrant crisis gives the impression the populist trend was limited to Europe and only as a response to the 2015 crisis. It wasn't. Countries outside of Europe, like the US and Brazil, had populists candidates win the presidency. And within Europe not all populist movements were related to the migrant crisis, some were left-wing like Syriza in Greece and Podemos in Spain and were a response to the Eurozone crisis. Brexit was chosen because it encapsulated all these movements to a greater or lesser extent (as does the phrase on the sign: 'we want our country back') and was globally significant with long-lasting effects. Some wanted Trump's election to be included too, also one of the biggest moments of the decade, but it was thought unnecessary because Brexit covered the same bases. Suggestions are welcome for a different image to represent populism/Brexit, although the Wikimedia Commons doesn't seem to hold a large selection of Brexit imagery other than pictures of pro-EU protests, but it shouldn't change the subject matter as populism was definitely one of the biggest trends of the decade. MaesterTonberry (talk) 13:46, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I hope that the 2011 Japan earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear meltdown can be reconsidered for the collage. It was one of the most powerful earthquakes ever recorded, and is currently the costliest natural disaster in history; it even moved Japan's main island 8 feet east, and the effects of the nuclear meltdown are still being dealt with years later in Japan. Internationally, the nuclear disaster has caused Germany to announce a shutdown of all nuclear plants by 2022, while Italy would no longer construct new nuclear plants for itself. LionFosset (talk) 07:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Medvedev

Why is Putin here, but not Medvedev, who was president for 4 years? He may have been a puppet of Putin, but he is still a famous politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.101.28.61 (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Proposal to split this article by topic

I am restoring the following text of a proposal from earlier this year, to split up this article by topic, into separate articles as noted below. I would like this section to remain here for some further time period, in order to invite comments.

so far, the opinion appears to be in support of splitting this article. I will pin this section, so that we can allow a greater time period for others to comment on this proposal. Please feel free to comment below.

Below are the proposed articles to split into. The remaining existing article for 2010s would be mainly used for politics, economics, and natural disasters and other major natural events.

thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 23:50, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Original text, and Comments

Original section title: Can we split article? Please feel free to comment!!

I would like to split this article. for starters, the whole culture section could be moved to an article entitled 2010s in culture, or else 2010s in entertainment or 2010s in popular culture. is that okay? also what article name do editors here prefer? thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I support the 2010s in culture article. However some of the content should remain here.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 00:35, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree, per length. Onetwothreeip (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: though there's still more work to do on them I have split section's of this article into the new pages you suggested I might have a look at moving more info into the 2010s in science and technology page as well.Llewee (talk) 13:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Llewee, ok, that souinds excellent. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:51, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

@Llewee: Since you seem to be active on the editing of this page, thoughts on the RfC comment below? The article does not seem well balanced with respect to cultural impact. Any suggestions?

"It's helpful to split the information into separate in-depth articles, but I feel there should still be more general text in the main article since it seems now the bulk of it contains just political content, which doesn't really give a big picture idea of the decade imo. I'd propose that some of the templates (film, tv, music, games, etc.) remain as well as possibly the media from the technology gallery"

RfC about consistency of information included in decade articles

It's helpful to split the information into separate in-depth articles, but I feel there should still be more text in the main article since it seems now the bulk of it contains just political content, which doesn't really give a big picture idea of the decade imo. I'd propose that some of the templates (film, tv, music, games, etc.) remain as well as possibly some of the media from the technology gallery? 68.58.66.50 (talk) 22:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Support - Breaking down the information would provide a much more wider understanding of the article, rather than leaving the information merged. Idealigic (talk) 13:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Shifts in Western cultural conception of gender and attitudes surrounding it

I'm undecided – and therefore would appreciate some feedback – on whether you think this topic is notable enough to warrant some kind of brief mention in the article. Unencyclopedically speaking, in the 2010s there came a popular-culture avalanche of discourse and shifting views in regards to gender that had previously enjoyed popularity only in areas of Internet culture and academic circles of queer theory and postmodernist philosophy (as exemplified in this regard, perhaps most famously, by Judith Butler's work). For one, transgender identity and transgender politics became much more visible, especially after Obergefell v. Hodges and Caitlyn Jenner's coming out as trans. Aside from transgenderism, most Westerners came into contact with certain concepts that, despite having existed previously, were only beginning to become mainstream in the public's knowledge and understanding. I mean concepts such as gender binary, genderfluid or genderqueerness gender identity, gender expression, alternative pronouns, etc.; or, additionally, extending from gender to the somewhat related domain of sexual orientation, such identities as pansexuality, demisexuality and asexuality. Arthur E. Stewart (talk) 00:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Arthur E. Stewart, There is a bit of discussion of gender relations and LGBT rights at 2010s in health and society if you want to add some more information there. Llewee (talk) 12:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

2010s

I would like to change the collage in 2010s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcanji (talk • contribs) 21:55, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, let's open a discussion. But we have to restore the previous version first, so I'll undone your edits another time, please don't revert me back. -- Nick.mon (talk) 21:59, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I also ping Blurryman and Uinko who recently reverted your edits. -- Nick.mon (talk) 22:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Let's continue the subject. I understood your point, and I'd like to discuss more about this. Is there anything else that I need to know about this subject? Arcanji (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@Arcanji. Hello. You seem to be unfamiliar with the conventions regarding changing long-established article content and also on the use of Talk pages. This information can be found here: WP:TALK and WP:TALKPAGE. In the case of the 2010s article, there were extensive discussions from at least 2018 into 2020 before agreement was reached upon the makeup of the present collage. These discussions can be found in the Archives for this page, which can be accessed via the link in the box at the top of this page. Here now, you need to set out your reasons as to why you think your suggested collage would be an improvement on the present one. --Blurryman (talk) 23:50, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

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Collage changes

I've noticed that the collage has been changed by 168.169.22.184 - I've reverted the changes because there were multiple issues, but perhaps this provides an opportunity to start a discussion.

I'm just gonna give my opinions on the collage by 168.169.22.184. The images added were low quality, especially for a decade Wikipedia article. The previous Brexit image was better than the added one and the Marvel Cinematic Universe image is extremely low quality (not to mention it probably shouldn't be included). Additionally, although tragic and devastating, I don't think the natural disasters (2010 Haiti earthquake, 2011 Tohuku earthquake/tsunami) had significant enough effects to represent the whole decade. But I can also see arguments for removing the Paris Agreement and/or ISIS. In terms of scientific discoveries, is the discovery of the Higgs boson (with the added bonus of adding an image from the Large Hadron Collider) more significant than the first image of a black hole? We could add both but there is limited space in the collage.

I think the main problem is that the collage is too politically focused. We need at least 1 or 2 cultural images. There is a case for adding Minecraft - can anyone think of another cultural phenomenon that is more significant and can be represented in an image? BappleBusiness (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

TimTom405 Please see above. I'm reverting your edits because a previous consensus (see Talk:2010s/Archive 2) was reached. If we're considering updating the collage, let's reach a new consensus in this talk page before we edit the page.BappleBusiness (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

I would like to look into this as well. I agree with you completely. I think we can come up with good stuff that represents culture and history. TimTom405 (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I think what I would do, if it were me personally, Is keep everything your current collage has, add Minecraft or maybe a better picture, then here me out, add something from the popular culture section like dabbing or internet memes like Nyan Cat (2011). I have also seen some great stuff featured on the 2010s archive page that is on popular culture like VR. Too, while I don’t agree with his politics, there is no denying Donald Trump gripped the late 2010s like Richard Nixon gripped the early 1970s and is featured on its wiki page. Respond if you can, just some ideas. TimTom405 (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


We should do something like this I made:

File:2010scollageTimTom405.jpg

I saw your comment before, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I'm going to be reverting again until we can determine a consensus here (among more editors than just us too). I also want to correct you when you said this was "my collage": I actually had nothing to do with the creation of it, it was created at the end of the decade by a multitude of editors. I like your ideas, but I have a few issues with your collage.
I think the biggest is with the removing of the Arab Spring, which was extremely influential and absolutely should stay. I saw that the picture of Donald Trump replaced Brexit; Trump and Brexit are two sides of the same populist coin, and I have to agree with the previous consensus that we should focus on greater populist movements like Brexit rather than a single person. We have to be careful with recent Presidents especially, because we might give undue weight to them (see WP:RECENTISM), especially a one-term president like Trump. I agree with you that the increasing prevalance of internet memes/culture should be included; I would argue against dabbing or Nyan Cat though, as they weren't hugely consequential within themselves. Perhaps we could include how Minecraft was popularized by social media (see Minecraft#Cultural_impact) - to not only further justify Minecraft's inclusion but also incorporate 2010s internet culture without OVERrepresenting it. I'll also note that we already have smartphones, which is an economic but also social inclusion. Finally, we need to use a higher-res image for ISIS, and possibly Minecraft too if we're keeping it (we could do MineCon?).
Let's continue this discussion on this talk page. If you have any more designs for collages, make sure put them here first (I see you did that above). BappleBusiness (talk) 13:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm very sorry it took me a minute to get to you. We generally agree, so besides Mine-Con, all we need is something symbolic and representative of internet meme culture in the 2010s. What do you think we should put? (TimTom405)
No worries! My idea was that Minecraft would be the symbol/representative of internet influence in the decade since it rose to prominence largely due to social media, especially YouTube. The main issue is that the collage only holds 7-8 images. So if we were to add Minecraft, we need to remove an image. I'm hesitant to make a decision like that myself. If an image had to be removed, I think either the annexation of Crimea or the Paris Agreement could go, just because of the lack of long-term effects comparatively. I haven't made up my mind myself whether or not Minecraft/internet culture is significant enough to replace either of these events. The other issue is that we need a high quality copyright-free image to use for Minecraft - if we can't find that, there's no point in even having a discussion about it.BappleBusiness (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
File:E3 2011 - box-headed Minecraft men (5822675610).jpg
This image is okay, probably if I'm being honest the best image I could find. It's royalty free, pretty high quality and on Wikimedia Commons. It was taken at E3 2011. If we use this image we could put something in the description like "Minecraft became the best selling game of all time during the decade, and was among prevalent internet meme culture and internet memes which defined 2010s popular culture". Then you also have the element of cosplay within the image. (TimTom405)
I think the image could be satisfactory - we would need to crop it to be a square, which might entail cutting off one of the guys in the photo, but it still might be okay. Let's keep looking anyway, perhaps there's a creative commons video that we can screen-grab from. For the description, I'm thinking "Minecraft becomes the best selling game of all time, popularized by social media and internet memes"? The other descriptions used present tense and didn't mention the word "2010s" so I altered your idea to reflect that. BappleBusiness (talk) 22:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Twenty-Tens decade started

Just as a heads up to all editors. A few months ago, a WikiProject for the Twenty-Tens decade was proposed and today it was created. So feel free to join the new WikiProject Twenty-Tens decade. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

2010s didn't end in 2019 and here's the why

So, let's imagine several decimal numbers which contain 365 tenths. When a decade starts, it's like a decimal number that goes from 0.01 to 0.365, and after the last decimal number we get a whole number, that is, 1. On the second year, the process restarts, so we get decimal numbers that go from 2.01 to 2.365, and so it goes. That is, in December 31 of 2019, it was like 8.365, and after that we got the whole number 9, which was 2020. When 2020 started, the tenth year of the decade was just starting, so the new decade actually started in January 01 of 2021, when the tenth year ended. Okay, I think that it's still not well understandable, so here's another example. When you start counting to 10 it's like: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. You see that I started counting from the number 1, right? I didn't started counting from 0, if I did we would still have a sequence of ten numbers, but it would be as following: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9; if the number 10 is included in that sequence, then we will have eleven numbers rather than ten. If that isn't already clear, let's continue the count: 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. As you can see, it also forms a sequence of ten numbers and, obviously, I didn't start counting from 10, because it wouldn't make sense. Decades are just like this: they start from a set of ten which the first number ends with 1, and the tenth number ends with 0 (like the number 10 does). I hope that's clear enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minzirévidi (talk • contribs) 22:07, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The 2010s aren't the kind of decade you are writing about there. They simply years whose first three digits are 201. They begin with 2010, and end with 2019.HiLo48 (talk) 01:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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